Comments on: The Greatest Team Fortress 2 Update

By: Out Reach

Out Reach — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 08:57:29 +0000

Yesterday got 100 points in 1 round (2nd place got 30) meanwhile today got 30 Kills: 1 Death XD

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I know it will not last… but it’s just amazing how innocent everyone is… it’s like the days before mass paranoia, where people didn’t turn around suddenly for no reason 1/2 way through the backstab animation.

By: Stick

Stick — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 08:26:17 +0000

The upside to all the wannabe mass-murder Spies? I haven’t had this much fun as Medic since the Early Days. (Slice, dice, put head on ice, etc.)

… mind you, having to tell people over and over “nooo, it’s not HAX, go read up on the Dead Ringer” is getting a bit dull.

By: verendus

verendus — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 08:06:54 +0000

The difference between the new weapons, I mean. Clearing up the ambiguity there.

By: verendus

verendus — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 05:01:17 +0000

On the downside, there have been so many new weapons introduced since last I played I can scarcely tell the difference.

By: Delacroix

Delacroix — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 02:09:58 +0000

Hoo boy, if you thought spy was bad to newbies. Sniper is even worse. It’s saying something if you can spawncamp the first stage of Egypt by sitting on the scaffolding around the first CP by alternating between spawn exits (and you’re not a particularly good sniper).

The way they move straight for you is almost hypnotic, as is the way they unleash four spies on you, three disguised as you with your colored dot where their head should be (the heavy’s head is higher than the spy’s. try aiming at the top of a disguised heavy! And basically never disguise as heavy yourself).

Ultimately, whatever sensenation of uber-super-awesome-cool skills you will feel playing with the new blood quickly drains away and you’re left with a team of copycats who want to try steal your thunder. They might want to try steal fire from the gods first, sheeesh I only wish they would try to soldier rush rather than sniper or spy rush.

I don’t think I’ve felt more like a badass since this new update. It’s like kicking a puppy I know but…

By: Jackohbite

Jackohbite — Tue, 05 Jul 2011 00:40:08 +0000

It’s good when you get a bunch of new players who listen to your advice and start doing really well. Then you feel like you legitimately know something about the game, no matter how many times you got backstabbed playing a scout (43 at last count).

By: MartinJ

MartinJ — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:33:27 +0000

I had a terrible round last night on koth_nucleus where the enemy team had a medic, a heavy and two scouts (an ideal setup for that map, at those numbers) and no matter how hard I tried nicely (and later, not so nicely) explaining to my teammates that we really need at least SOME similar classes (a soldier, a pyro, or a heavy or something), they all kept playing (very bad) snipers and spies.

I eventually managed to convince them after about 10 lost rounds, and all of a sudden, we started winning – with pretty much still the same teams.

By: Chris Livingston

Chris Livingston — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:25:43 +0000

Yeah, I was in a cp_steel match with a bunch of new players and some pro was absolutely dominating with the Dead Ringer. Steel, naturally, meant all the new players were completely lost, and they didn’t know how the Ringer worked, so it was just a slaughter. And shouting “Dead Ringer” doesn’t help because they don’t know what it is. So I basically just had to abandon the objectives and run around double-killing the same damn Spy all night. Still. Fun.

By: Madness

Madness — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:21:48 +0000

And I apparently, am in love with commas, this morning.

I like, speaking like, the Shatnerator.

By: Madness

Madness — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:21:13 +0000

Also, the L’Etranger is a crock of shit, in my opinion. Just not my bag at all.

By: Madness

Madness — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:19:31 +0000

I’ve never been a fan of the Eternal Reward, but my Spy play revolves around the use of my Enforcer anyway. I use the Dead Ringer, and it’s bloody useful, but I tend to get more gun kills than backstabs, and I like it that way.

By: Pentadact

Pentadact — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 09:36:58 +0000

Is it really silent? The description just says reduced, so I figured that’d be quiet for normal cloaking but still quite loud for Dead Ringering.

I really want that, but man, I hate set bonuses. I don’t want that gun, I don’t want that hat, I got my own thing goin’ on.

By: Out Reach

Out Reach — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 08:14:24 +0000

ahhh the cure of “the top player is class X, I should go class X as well!” total bane of any spy :\ You get a great run and go to the top, but then next round there are so many allied spies being bloody obvious, they spend 1/2 the time showing the enemy where you are.

Also Yeah, Eternal Reward + Dead Ringer works wonders if you take the full Saharan Spy set, silent dead ringer decloak is just monstrous.

By: MartinJ

MartinJ — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 08:01:49 +0000

I agree with Michael wholeheartedly. I was always near the top of the board in public servers, and I still am but overall I find it hard to lead a team to a victory simply due to the number of complete newbies. People who for example have no idea how a sniper works or what a heavy is good for, charging with a sniper into a group of soldiers or exposing the back of a heavy to any spy, literally inviting them for a backstab.

It’s a little frustrating because as I usually play a spy, whenever I get a good few rounds going and I get to the top position these newbies automatically assume that spy is the best class to rake in kills and they also switch to it, and I’ve found it’s incredibly hard to get a balanced team (class-wise) at all lately.

By: LeSwordfish

LeSwordfish — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 07:32:03 +0000

Ashamedly, i still find myself near the middle of the leaderboard.

In my defence, heavies everywhere.

By: Michael Riley

Michael Riley — Mon, 04 Jul 2011 04:26:37 +0000

I actually find that it’s harder to play. Usually, you can assume that people are around the same skill level. Now however, it takes just a few good players to really tip the scales in favor of one team or the other. And there’s nothing you can really do about it until everyone can work as a team better. Guess that means that the team-based design is working…

By: Andrew Doull

Andrew Doull — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 23:53:32 +0000

James: That’s why the Saharan Spy set gives you silent decloak. Also you can cloak with the Dead Ringer at will provided there is somewhere conveniently high to fall from.

By: Pentadact

Pentadact — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:38:35 +0000

Using both at once is pretty much Hard Mode. Reward leaves you unable to disguise until you get your first kill, and the Dead Ringer makes such a loud noise you need to decloak miles from anyone. So then you’ve got to run those miles behind enemy lines with no disguise.

If no-one on the enemy team knows what the Dead Ringer noise means, of course, it’ll work.

I never got the hang of the Reward – the penalty seemed far too great. I crafted mine to make a Big Earner, which is incredible with the Dead Ringer.

By: Alex B

Alex B — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:22:26 +0000

Moni: As soon as you’re damaged with the Dead Ringer equipped, you’ll cloak and a dead body will appear at your location. Your target will assume you’re dead, and continue on. You decloak, stabbing them with Your Eternal Reward. You then take their identity, as you’ve killed them.

By: Moni

Moni — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:08:54 +0000

I’ve got 800 hours clocked on TF2, and I have the Eternal Reward and the Dead Ringer, I still don’t know how it works.

By: booshmee

booshmee — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:57:00 +0000

Your Eternal Reward + Dead Ringer is the meaniest thing you can do to newbies. Once you’ve got that initial backstab (and thus disguise) they just don’t understand what happens, sometimes even when they’re right behind you. And the Dead Ringer… oh, the Dead Ringer. They ACTUALLY believe they’ve killed you! Wow!

By: Out Reach

Out Reach — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:52:26 +0000

But it’s so adorable that they don’t understand the eternal reward and the dead ringer :D So many backstabs….