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		By: Jason L		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-87921</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Presumably everyone knows about Mr. Deity who wants to, but I had somehow overlooked Words and wonder whether others may have as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRCw-Hfnpxo I&#039;m putting it here because it&#039;s the closest to a commentable Seinfeld piece. A look into the &#039;real lives&#039; of the Mr. Deity cast, it has the same terrible recognition of privilege that you pinned down in the Media page.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumably everyone knows about Mr. Deity who wants to, but I had somehow overlooked Words and wonder whether others may have as well. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRCw-Hfnpxo" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRCw-Hfnpxo</a> I&#8217;m putting it here because it&#8217;s the closest to a commentable Seinfeld piece. A look into the &#8216;real lives&#8217; of the Mr. Deity cast, it has the same terrible recognition of privilege that you pinned down in the Media page.</p>
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		By: DoctorDisaster		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-47180</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whedon writes great snappy dialogue; Dollhouse really is way below par. Mind, this is coming from someone who has seen about three episodes of Buffy in his entire life. I&#039;m basing my opinion on Firefly/Serenity and the more recent Doc Horrible and Astonishing X-men. I don&#039;t think my age and wisdom (?) have anything to do with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whedon writes great snappy dialogue; Dollhouse really is way below par. Mind, this is coming from someone who has seen about three episodes of Buffy in his entire life. I&#8217;m basing my opinion on Firefly/Serenity and the more recent Doc Horrible and Astonishing X-men. I don&#8217;t think my age and wisdom (?) have anything to do with it.</p>
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		By: Palms		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-47177</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dante, I agree. Last episode of Heroes, while still flawed, was a lot better than normal. Some of the &quot;tension&quot; between Matt and Mohinder for example was a little contrived, but overall I liked the insight we got into Bennet&#039;s mind (even if all his flashbacks told us stuff we already knew...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dante, I agree. Last episode of Heroes, while still flawed, was a lot better than normal. Some of the &#8220;tension&#8221; between Matt and Mohinder for example was a little contrived, but overall I liked the insight we got into Bennet&#8217;s mind (even if all his flashbacks told us stuff we already knew&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Dante		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, and I&#039;m really beginning to suspect Heroes really has turned a corner, last episode featured Mr Bennet in black and white flashbacks about his morally dubious affiliations and stuck to characters important to the story rather than roping in Syler&#039;s irrelevant family road trip. Not exactly original, but certainly a cut above some of their recent fare.

Meanwhile I&#039;ve also been watching a lot of Deadwood, which must be going up against The Thick of It for the title of sweariest show on TV, especially Calamity Jane.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m really beginning to suspect Heroes really has turned a corner, last episode featured Mr Bennet in black and white flashbacks about his morally dubious affiliations and stuck to characters important to the story rather than roping in Syler&#8217;s irrelevant family road trip. Not exactly original, but certainly a cut above some of their recent fare.</p>
<p>Meanwhile I&#8217;ve also been watching a lot of Deadwood, which must be going up against The Thick of It for the title of sweariest show on TV, especially Calamity Jane.</p>
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		By: Dante		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-47163</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder, is this a symptom of us getting older and less cool/stupid. Perhaps in the years since Buffy we&#039;ve all come to look for our witty dialogue in classier places (ie: The West Wing) and going back is underwhelming.

Alternatively the whole witty teenager speak thing has started going so far up it&#039;s own arse it&#039;s now merely vaguely annoying and incomprehensible. I blame Juno for this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder, is this a symptom of us getting older and less cool/stupid. Perhaps in the years since Buffy we&#8217;ve all come to look for our witty dialogue in classier places (ie: The West Wing) and going back is underwhelming.</p>
<p>Alternatively the whole witty teenager speak thing has started going so far up it&#8217;s own arse it&#8217;s now merely vaguely annoying and incomprehensible. I blame Juno for this.</p>
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		By: Palms		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-47062</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You and Walker make a good point, Tom; the &quot;Xanderish&quot; archetypal Whedon &quot;nerdy&quot; character who is normally so endearing is, for some reason, annoying to the point that I want to rip his eyes out with a fork. I think it&#039;s his arrogance (from which the &quot;cern the diff&quot; line stems). It reminds me of the character in Serenity, I can&#039;t remember his name, the one who went on about a signal... The overall air of smugness that surrounded him just made me want to cheer in the cinema when he was (Spoiler) finally skewered (although his last recording was a little sad, in both senses of the word). I expect when we learn more about him he&#039;ll be a little more sympathetic. Also the intro music really is terrible, similar to the theme for Fringe (I&#039;d expect more from the genius that is Giacchino). It just sounds so simple and inconsequential. I dunno.

Anyway, when we first find out the sinister intentions of the guy hiring Echo I was thinking it would really add a darker edge to the already morally grey (well, not *that* grey) ethics of Dollhouse: That they allowed Echo to be hired for the purpose of hunted game. It would take prostitution to a whole new level. I was actually a little disappointed when I realised that they were just hiring Echo out as an adventurous girlfriend, not as game.

(Also, listened to new PC gamer podcast last night, the reading out of the MSN email really cheered me up. Loved the sincere interpretation of idiocy.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and Walker make a good point, Tom; the &#8220;Xanderish&#8221; archetypal Whedon &#8220;nerdy&#8221; character who is normally so endearing is, for some reason, annoying to the point that I want to rip his eyes out with a fork. I think it&#8217;s his arrogance (from which the &#8220;cern the diff&#8221; line stems). It reminds me of the character in Serenity, I can&#8217;t remember his name, the one who went on about a signal&#8230; The overall air of smugness that surrounded him just made me want to cheer in the cinema when he was (Spoiler) finally skewered (although his last recording was a little sad, in both senses of the word). I expect when we learn more about him he&#8217;ll be a little more sympathetic. Also the intro music really is terrible, similar to the theme for Fringe (I&#8217;d expect more from the genius that is Giacchino). It just sounds so simple and inconsequential. I dunno.</p>
<p>Anyway, when we first find out the sinister intentions of the guy hiring Echo I was thinking it would really add a darker edge to the already morally grey (well, not *that* grey) ethics of Dollhouse: That they allowed Echo to be hired for the purpose of hunted game. It would take prostitution to a whole new level. I was actually a little disappointed when I realised that they were just hiring Echo out as an adventurous girlfriend, not as game.</p>
<p>(Also, listened to new PC gamer podcast last night, the reading out of the MSN email really cheered me up. Loved the sincere interpretation of idiocy.)</p>
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		By: Pentadact		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-47059</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Liked it again, but still not in love. Disturbing and not entirely convincing to see the Middleman play that role. Still don&#039;t see why the handler took the job. And still don&#039;t see the mileage in such a fraught concept.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://botherer.org/2009/02/21/unwelcome-to-the-dollhouse/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Like Walker,&lt;/a&gt; I had a very hard time not switching it off and never watching again at &quot;cern the diff&quot;, but the absence of any esoteric lingo elsewhere doesn&#039;t bother me at all. A common thread among the negative reactions seems to be the ways in which it&#039;s not Buffy, or Whedonesque - I didn&#039;t expect or want it to be.

Mostly I&#039;m just enjoying Dushku, who changes impressively, and the stark variety. Not having the faintest clue what might happen even fifteen minute into an episode is a rare thing. I think there are easier ways of achieving it, but whatever, it&#039;s working for me.

Doctor Disaster: finally watched the United States of Tara pilot on your recommendation. Holy shit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liked it again, but still not in love. Disturbing and not entirely convincing to see the Middleman play that role. Still don&#8217;t see why the handler took the job. And still don&#8217;t see the mileage in such a fraught concept.</p>
<p><a href="http://botherer.org/2009/02/21/unwelcome-to-the-dollhouse/" rel="nofollow">Like Walker,</a> I had a very hard time not switching it off and never watching again at &#8220;cern the diff&#8221;, but the absence of any esoteric lingo elsewhere doesn&#8217;t bother me at all. A common thread among the negative reactions seems to be the ways in which it&#8217;s not Buffy, or Whedonesque &#8211; I didn&#8217;t expect or want it to be.</p>
<p>Mostly I&#8217;m just enjoying Dushku, who changes impressively, and the stark variety. Not having the faintest clue what might happen even fifteen minute into an episode is a rare thing. I think there are easier ways of achieving it, but whatever, it&#8217;s working for me.</p>
<p>Doctor Disaster: finally watched the United States of Tara pilot on your recommendation. Holy shit.</p>
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		By: Palms		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-47039</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just watched the new episode of Dollhouse and I&#039;m very impressed. A lot better than the first episode. There are still quite a few clichés but I guess Whedon has always been a little cheesy. Just watching it makes me wish he had the time to expand on Firefly though. Damn that was a good series. Also, I never found Faith hot, but Echo really is.

Interested to know what Tom thinks about it. (The episode I mean, not my opinions on Eliza Dushku...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watched the new episode of Dollhouse and I&#8217;m very impressed. A lot better than the first episode. There are still quite a few clichés but I guess Whedon has always been a little cheesy. Just watching it makes me wish he had the time to expand on Firefly though. Damn that was a good series. Also, I never found Faith hot, but Echo really is.</p>
<p>Interested to know what Tom thinks about it. (The episode I mean, not my opinions on Eliza Dushku&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Dante		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-47016</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Personally I always thought HRG and Hiro were the ones still plugging away, no matter how bad the rest got.

I&#039;m uncertain about his role in the new series, he&#039;s always done morally grey things, but their best ever episode was the one that humanised him and it&#039;s sad to see them repeatedly trying to take that back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I always thought HRG and Hiro were the ones still plugging away, no matter how bad the rest got.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m uncertain about his role in the new series, he&#8217;s always done morally grey things, but their best ever episode was the one that humanised him and it&#8217;s sad to see them repeatedly trying to take that back.</p>
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		By: Palms		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I agree with Dante completely. If you must kill someone, kill a character that can&#039;t pull his or her weight in the story.&quot;

...I&#039;m hesitant in saying, every character on the show? =)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I agree with Dante completely. If you must kill someone, kill a character that can&#8217;t pull his or her weight in the story.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;I&#8217;m hesitant in saying, every character on the show? =)</p>
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		By: DoctorDisaster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Dante completely. If you must kill someone, kill a character that can&#039;t pull his or her weight in the story.

The difference between the tension now and the tension in season 2 is that the tension now is very well-motivated. HRG is doing extremely unethical things both to protect his daughter and because he genuinely believes that these people need to be controlled. Claire is justifiably appalled as she is brought face to face with her dad&#039;s dark side.

Whereas in 2 the &#039;tension&#039; was between &quot;We need to protect our family from a sinister corporation that wants to lock us all up&quot; and &quot;but I like this boooooooooooooy!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dante completely. If you must kill someone, kill a character that can&#8217;t pull his or her weight in the story.</p>
<p>The difference between the tension now and the tension in season 2 is that the tension now is very well-motivated. HRG is doing extremely unethical things both to protect his daughter and because he genuinely believes that these people need to be controlled. Claire is justifiably appalled as she is brought face to face with her dad&#8217;s dark side.</p>
<p>Whereas in 2 the &#8216;tension&#8217; was between &#8220;We need to protect our family from a sinister corporation that wants to lock us all up&#8221; and &#8220;but I like this boooooooooooooy!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Dante		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back in the first series it would kill them off, but they rapidly became so successful they were scared to repeat it.

Killing HRG in order to give Claire motivation? I bloody hope not, sacrificing one of, if not the best character in order to improve a weak one is not a good plan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the first series it would kill them off, but they rapidly became so successful they were scared to repeat it.</p>
<p>Killing HRG in order to give Claire motivation? I bloody hope not, sacrificing one of, if not the best character in order to improve a weak one is not a good plan.</p>
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		By: Palms		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; I actually like the tension they&#039;re creating between Claire and HRG&quot;

The thing is, they&#039;ve done it all before, at the beginning of season 2 where Claire was supposed to just be a normal girl. We get it; she wants to be a hero, HRG wants her to act normal, this is just covered ground.

It&#039;s one of the main failings of the series; no consistency. The characters learn lessons, then forget them almost immediatly. It completely undermines the journey that those characters took in season 2 when they finally learnt to trust each other (or not, as the case turns out). I would love to see HRG get killed because of Claire&#039;s constant rebelling. It could be poignant and the event that kicks some fucking sense into the character.

However, Heroes isn&#039;t the sort of show that kills of it&#039;s main actors very easily (just ask Ali Larter...) and when it does it almost always makes a hash of it (Elle and Daphne for example).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I actually like the tension they&#8217;re creating between Claire and HRG&#8221;</p>
<p>The thing is, they&#8217;ve done it all before, at the beginning of season 2 where Claire was supposed to just be a normal girl. We get it; she wants to be a hero, HRG wants her to act normal, this is just covered ground.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one of the main failings of the series; no consistency. The characters learn lessons, then forget them almost immediatly. It completely undermines the journey that those characters took in season 2 when they finally learnt to trust each other (or not, as the case turns out). I would love to see HRG get killed because of Claire&#8217;s constant rebelling. It could be poignant and the event that kicks some fucking sense into the character.</p>
<p>However, Heroes isn&#8217;t the sort of show that kills of it&#8217;s main actors very easily (just ask Ali Larter&#8230;) and when it does it almost always makes a hash of it (Elle and Daphne for example).</p>
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		By: DoctorDisaster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I actually like the tension they&#039;re creating between Claire and HRG. That&#039;s definitely the direction they should embrace with those characters. But I agree that they need to emphasize Claire wrestling with a situation where invulnerability doesn&#039;t help. That&#039;s the situation she&#039;s in! All the cheesy bravado is hitting completely the wrong note, particularly when compared with the low-key efficiency she SHOULD have learned from her dad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like the tension they&#8217;re creating between Claire and HRG. That&#8217;s definitely the direction they should embrace with those characters. But I agree that they need to emphasize Claire wrestling with a situation where invulnerability doesn&#8217;t help. That&#8217;s the situation she&#8217;s in! All the cheesy bravado is hitting completely the wrong note, particularly when compared with the low-key efficiency she SHOULD have learned from her dad.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yeah but that thing with the staged escape in the last episode was exactly the sort of nonsensical plot-driving character behavior we&#039;ve come to know and loathe.&quot;

hmm, I remember watching it and thinking &quot;none of this makes any sense. Why would Tracy freeze her only bargaining chip in front of the only person who seems to care about her.&quot;

Also, Dante, while it&#039;s great that Claire isn&#039;t the damsel in distress any more, she&#039;s beginning to remind me of Scrappy doo now. The amount of times she&#039;s said lines like; &quot;you&#039;re not going to get away with this,&quot; forcing me to snort the ricicles I&#039;m eating out of my nose with laughter, indicates to me that maybe she was better as the cheerleader that needs saving. She seems to be punching above her (miniscule) height more often than not, with hilariously clichéd and cheesy consequences.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah but that thing with the staged escape in the last episode was exactly the sort of nonsensical plot-driving character behavior we&#8217;ve come to know and loathe.&#8221;</p>
<p>hmm, I remember watching it and thinking &#8220;none of this makes any sense. Why would Tracy freeze her only bargaining chip in front of the only person who seems to care about her.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, Dante, while it&#8217;s great that Claire isn&#8217;t the damsel in distress any more, she&#8217;s beginning to remind me of Scrappy doo now. The amount of times she&#8217;s said lines like; &#8220;you&#8217;re not going to get away with this,&#8221; forcing me to snort the ricicles I&#8217;m eating out of my nose with laughter, indicates to me that maybe she was better as the cheerleader that needs saving. She seems to be punching above her (miniscule) height more often than not, with hilariously clichéd and cheesy consequences.</p>
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		By: DoctorDisaster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah but that thing with the staged escape in the last episode was exactly the sort of nonsensical plot-driving character behavior we&#039;ve come to know and loathe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah but that thing with the staged escape in the last episode was exactly the sort of nonsensical plot-driving character behavior we&#8217;ve come to know and loathe.</p>
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		By: Dante		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My thoughts exactly Palms, now Peter&#039;s powers have been toned down he doesn&#039;t have to act like a moron to keep the plot moving. And they seem to have finally gotten past playing Claire as a victim despite her near invulnerability.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts exactly Palms, now Peter&#8217;s powers have been toned down he doesn&#8217;t have to act like a moron to keep the plot moving. And they seem to have finally gotten past playing Claire as a victim despite her near invulnerability.</p>
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		By: Palms		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have almost given up on heroes. The last two seasons I watched out of habit more than anything else. When the last episode was released (of the volume; fugitives...*sigh*) I felt like I really couldn&#039;t be bothered. The fact is I simply don&#039;t care about the characters anymore. They seem to have no motivations, constantly changing their minds and ideals. Simply; since season one, they *have* no character. 

However, I watched it (the most recent episode) and it actually wasn&#039;t half bad. It wasn&#039;t amazing, but it is beginning to restore my faith in the series. Let&#039;s see what happens when Brian Fuller&#039;s influence begins to be implemented.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have almost given up on heroes. The last two seasons I watched out of habit more than anything else. When the last episode was released (of the volume; fugitives&#8230;*sigh*) I felt like I really couldn&#8217;t be bothered. The fact is I simply don&#8217;t care about the characters anymore. They seem to have no motivations, constantly changing their minds and ideals. Simply; since season one, they *have* no character. </p>
<p>However, I watched it (the most recent episode) and it actually wasn&#8217;t half bad. It wasn&#8217;t amazing, but it is beginning to restore my faith in the series. Let&#8217;s see what happens when Brian Fuller&#8217;s influence begins to be implemented.</p>
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		By: DoctorDisaster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re probably right about some later twist hinging on Personality Pudding, but couldn&#039;t they have just based that later twist on an initial experiment with Brain Blend? Or at the very least saved the nitpicky details for a later episode? I guess it is kind of a quibble, but it wrecked the pacing for me.

Dante, just last night I was trying to explain what season of Heroes they were on, and gave up. Thanks for clarifying. I agree that the bit they&#039;re doing now shows promise, if only because they&#039;re ditching all experimentation and lifting the entire premise directly from an X-men yarn. But while cutting down the number of characters who do incredibly stupid things to advance the plot is a step in the right direction, that number still isn&#039;t zero and it should be.

I think my friend (who no longer watches the show) described it best when he said Heroes is one of those serials that is always poised to get really interesting, but never quite manages to cross that threshold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re probably right about some later twist hinging on Personality Pudding, but couldn&#8217;t they have just based that later twist on an initial experiment with Brain Blend? Or at the very least saved the nitpicky details for a later episode? I guess it is kind of a quibble, but it wrecked the pacing for me.</p>
<p>Dante, just last night I was trying to explain what season of Heroes they were on, and gave up. Thanks for clarifying. I agree that the bit they&#8217;re doing now shows promise, if only because they&#8217;re ditching all experimentation and lifting the entire premise directly from an X-men yarn. But while cutting down the number of characters who do incredibly stupid things to advance the plot is a step in the right direction, that number still isn&#8217;t zero and it should be.</p>
<p>I think my friend (who no longer watches the show) described it best when he said Heroes is one of those serials that is always poised to get really interesting, but never quite manages to cross that threshold.</p>
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		By: Dante		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glad you liked it Penty, the name is indeed terrible, and the Oirish lass can be pretty dodgy too, but Bruce Campbell and the brilliant narration make it worthwhile.

I&#039;ve just watched the first two episodes of the second chapter of the third series (sigh) of Heroes, and you know what? It might actually be getting good again. Maybe Brian Fuller does more than he gets credit for.

Dollhouse seems to be getting very mixed responses, I&#039;ll have to take a look sometime soon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you liked it Penty, the name is indeed terrible, and the Oirish lass can be pretty dodgy too, but Bruce Campbell and the brilliant narration make it worthwhile.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just watched the first two episodes of the second chapter of the third series (sigh) of Heroes, and you know what? It might actually be getting good again. Maybe Brian Fuller does more than he gets credit for.</p>
<p>Dollhouse seems to be getting very mixed responses, I&#8217;ll have to take a look sometime soon.</p>
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		By: Pentadact		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Undermined a bit by the part where he says they can pick and choose from various personalities. I think his lecture was to illustrate the point that the good qualities of that personality might be tied to the adversities it&#039;s had to endure, so if they didn&#039;t make her near-sighted she, like, wouldn&#039;t negotiate as hard.

Agreed, the amalgam personalities thing feels entirely unnecessary, and requires another huge leap of logic to accept. I&#039;m guessing he has a really good scene in mind that hinges on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undermined a bit by the part where he says they can pick and choose from various personalities. I think his lecture was to illustrate the point that the good qualities of that personality might be tied to the adversities it&#8217;s had to endure, so if they didn&#8217;t make her near-sighted she, like, wouldn&#8217;t negotiate as hard.</p>
<p>Agreed, the amalgam personalities thing feels entirely unnecessary, and requires another huge leap of logic to accept. I&#8217;m guessing he has a really good scene in mind that hinges on it.</p>
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		By: Palms		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;kept getting interrupted by technobabble explanations of how her nearsightedness was caused by stitching a number of personalities together into blah blah blah.&quot;

Really? Is that what they were saying? I thought the personality of the person she was currently using was just near sighted, so then she became nearsighted as well. I actually liked that part. The guy saying they couldn&#039;t pick and choose which features of a personality they wanted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;kept getting interrupted by technobabble explanations of how her nearsightedness was caused by stitching a number of personalities together into blah blah blah.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? Is that what they were saying? I thought the personality of the person she was currently using was just near sighted, so then she became nearsighted as well. I actually liked that part. The guy saying they couldn&#8217;t pick and choose which features of a personality they wanted.</p>
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		By: DoctorDisaster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jury&#039;s still out on Dollhouse. I think the silliness of the premise is still causing me trouble. Particularly because of the way the episode&#039;s climax (which on its own was pretty cool) kept getting interrupted by technobabble explanations of how her nearsightedness was caused by stitching a number of personalities together into blah blah blah. I would have accepted that the artificial personality came with its own memories with no explanation; why are you forcing this down my throat?

Also, spurred by this scout news, I have decided to start following you.

ON TWITTER I MEAN.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jury&#8217;s still out on Dollhouse. I think the silliness of the premise is still causing me trouble. Particularly because of the way the episode&#8217;s climax (which on its own was pretty cool) kept getting interrupted by technobabble explanations of how her nearsightedness was caused by stitching a number of personalities together into blah blah blah. I would have accepted that the artificial personality came with its own memories with no explanation; why are you forcing this down my throat?</p>
<p>Also, spurred by this scout news, I have decided to start following you.</p>
<p>ON TWITTER I MEAN.</p>
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		By: Palms		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just watched the first episode of Dollhouse and I enjoyed it way way more than I thought I would. The concept had no interest to me, but halfway through watching it I suddenly realized the possibilites it allows.

The first episode itself was only a 7/10 though. I hear Fox executives dipped their dirty fingers in it which explains alot. Probably the same fingers that strangled Firefly and Futurama.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched the first episode of Dollhouse and I enjoyed it way way more than I thought I would. The concept had no interest to me, but halfway through watching it I suddenly realized the possibilites it allows.</p>
<p>The first episode itself was only a 7/10 though. I hear Fox executives dipped their dirty fingers in it which explains alot. Probably the same fingers that strangled Firefly and Futurama.</p>
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		By: Bret		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know, it&#039;s good Dollhouse isn&#039;t Firefly good, but merely really good.

I couldn&#039;t take that sort of pain a third time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, it&#8217;s good Dollhouse isn&#8217;t Firefly good, but merely really good.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t take that sort of pain a third time.</p>
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		By: Pentadact		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Update! Dante&#039;s right, Burn Notice is good. He&#039;s also right that it has a terrible name.

Damages has got much better, and captivatingly dark.

The concept of Dollhouse continues to make no sense, but luckily the show itself is great. I like Dushku but hate Faith, so it&#039;s nice to see her snap out of it. It will be cancelled swiftly, of course.

Lie To Me: still fun.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update! Dante&#8217;s right, Burn Notice is good. He&#8217;s also right that it has a terrible name.</p>
<p>Damages has got much better, and captivatingly dark.</p>
<p>The concept of Dollhouse continues to make no sense, but luckily the show itself is great. I like Dushku but hate Faith, so it&#8217;s nice to see her snap out of it. It will be cancelled swiftly, of course.</p>
<p>Lie To Me: still fun.</p>
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		By: Jason L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I rarely watch TV that isn&#039;t on a Digital Versatile Disc. Last night I caught an entire episode of The Big Bang Theory from start to finish while fixing a computer. I liked it a lot! I should have known before the credits that it was from Chuck Lorre.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rarely watch TV that isn&#8217;t on a Digital Versatile Disc. Last night I caught an entire episode of The Big Bang Theory from start to finish while fixing a computer. I liked it a lot! I should have known before the credits that it was from Chuck Lorre.</p>
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		By: DoctorDisaster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love BSG, but if you couldn&#039;t make it through the first season, there&#039;s no way you&#039;ll enjoy the murkier bits in the middle. (The end fucking rocks so far, though.) It is an incredibly cynical show, though. If you disagree with me, name a truly good-hearted character -- one! -- that has been a major player in more than a handful of episodes.

(And whoever was complaining that the cylons are treated as inhuman -- well, suffice to say that issue has been addressed pretty thoroughly.)

Dexter season 3 was good, but any follow-up to season 2 was bound to be overshadowed. House I enjoy, but I don&#039;t follow it. Frankly, I don&#039;t understand how people &#039;follow&#039; episodic series like that. Heroes is kind of acting like it wants to redeem itself -- they&#039;ve excised all the most hideously unbearable material from season 2 -- but it&#039;s not there yet.

I&#039;m also strangely compelled by United States of Tara. The central premise is utterly preposterous, but some of the characters are pretty interesting to watch. Not as constantly funny as Juno (same writer), but not as treacly either.

But if you really want to see some trash TV appreciation, sit me down in front of one of those awful ghost shows. I&#039;m not even into ghost stuff, but for some reason I can sit there for hours watching guys who were picked on in high school point thermal cameras at creaky floorboards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love BSG, but if you couldn&#8217;t make it through the first season, there&#8217;s no way you&#8217;ll enjoy the murkier bits in the middle. (The end fucking rocks so far, though.) It is an incredibly cynical show, though. If you disagree with me, name a truly good-hearted character &#8212; one! &#8212; that has been a major player in more than a handful of episodes.</p>
<p>(And whoever was complaining that the cylons are treated as inhuman &#8212; well, suffice to say that issue has been addressed pretty thoroughly.)</p>
<p>Dexter season 3 was good, but any follow-up to season 2 was bound to be overshadowed. House I enjoy, but I don&#8217;t follow it. Frankly, I don&#8217;t understand how people &#8216;follow&#8217; episodic series like that. Heroes is kind of acting like it wants to redeem itself &#8212; they&#8217;ve excised all the most hideously unbearable material from season 2 &#8212; but it&#8217;s not there yet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also strangely compelled by United States of Tara. The central premise is utterly preposterous, but some of the characters are pretty interesting to watch. Not as constantly funny as Juno (same writer), but not as treacly either.</p>
<p>But if you really want to see some trash TV appreciation, sit me down in front of one of those awful ghost shows. I&#8217;m not even into ghost stuff, but for some reason I can sit there for hours watching guys who were picked on in high school point thermal cameras at creaky floorboards.</p>
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		By: Bobsy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hm. I never found BSG particularly military-y, to be honest. And it softens up a bit towards the season 2/3 switch. One of the main themes that goes on throughout the series is the balance of power between the military command and the civilian government, what real role an elected body has over a population of &#060;50,000, and all that jazz.

Incidentally, this week&#039;s News Quiz had David Mitchell debuting, and he was excellent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm. I never found BSG particularly military-y, to be honest. And it softens up a bit towards the season 2/3 switch. One of the main themes that goes on throughout the series is the balance of power between the military command and the civilian government, what real role an elected body has over a population of &lt;50,000, and all that jazz.</p>
<p>Incidentally, this week&#8217;s News Quiz had David Mitchell debuting, and he was excellent.</p>
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		By: Bret		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pushing Daisies makes every right thinking person sad. I mean, that such a great show is canceled...

Not thinking about it is the only way to stay sane.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pushing Daisies makes every right thinking person sad. I mean, that such a great show is canceled&#8230;</p>
<p>Not thinking about it is the only way to stay sane.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And you forgot the new series&#039;s of Pushing Dasies and Dexter!]]></description>
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		By: Jazmeister		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The fifties refused to stop happening and forced the sixties to adolesce gradually into the seventies. It was crowded, I hear. Then, of course, the Glorious Dawn of Man. Then the Glorious fall. Then the noughties/naughties. Twelve years until the twenties are back, though, so that&#039;s good.

@ J-man

Ah. And I see wikipedia confirms. It was satsifying to stun my brother with my smug analysis, regardless. More characters should be based on Holmes. Less games should be made, in return.

@ Dante

I wa&#039;s reading &#039;some Terry Pratchett to my wife, and its&#039; hard becau&#039;se he doe&#039;s a lot of punctuation humour. I&#039;ts&#039; hard to convey verbally.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fifties refused to stop happening and forced the sixties to adolesce gradually into the seventies. It was crowded, I hear. Then, of course, the Glorious Dawn of Man. Then the Glorious fall. Then the noughties/naughties. Twelve years until the twenties are back, though, so that&#8217;s good.</p>
<p>@ J-man</p>
<p>Ah. And I see wikipedia confirms. It was satsifying to stun my brother with my smug analysis, regardless. More characters should be based on Holmes. Less games should be made, in return.</p>
<p>@ Dante</p>
<p>I wa&#8217;s reading &#8216;some Terry Pratchett to my wife, and its&#8217; hard becau&#8217;se he doe&#8217;s a lot of punctuation humour. I&#8217;ts&#8217; hard to convey verbally.</p>
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		By: Dante		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s set in 1960, but it&#039;s got a real &#039;the fifties&#039; vibe.

I just watched the first two episodes of &#039;Lie to Me&#039; and it&#039;s surprisingly decent, despite clearly doing a bit of a &#039;follow the leader&#039; in some respects. I like the &#039;radical honesty&#039; guy though, isn&#039;t he the boyfreind from &#039;The Middleman&#039;?

I really have to cut down on my apostrophe usage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s set in 1960, but it&#8217;s got a real &#8216;the fifties&#8217; vibe.</p>
<p>I just watched the first two episodes of &#8216;Lie to Me&#8217; and it&#8217;s surprisingly decent, despite clearly doing a bit of a &#8216;follow the leader&#8217; in some respects. I like the &#8216;radical honesty&#8217; guy though, isn&#8217;t he the boyfreind from &#8216;The Middleman&#8217;?</p>
<p>I really have to cut down on my apostrophe usage.</p>
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		By: Pentadact		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Mad Men - Awesomely fifties&quot; - isn&#039;t it set in the sixties?

I was really enjoying it for a time, but I got tired of Don being such a dick to the women. Connor from Angel was an inspired casting choice for the role he plays.

Flashpoint didn&#039;t grab me, but I&#039;ll give it another go since so many mentioned it.

I lasted nearly one season of Battlestar, it&#039;s not for me. I might be able to suffer the oh-so-serious military setting if I found the bad guys compelling or liked any of the characters. I will watch anything with Michelle Forbes, though, so her guest star as that Admiral was worth sticking around for.

My appetite for House is dwarfed by the amount of it they&#039;ve produced. I think I would have liked it to be a film.

Don&#039;t watch either Mock vs Got News often enough to judge these days, but when David Mitchell hosts the latter I&#039;m there. QI is king. Fry&#039;s Twitter is making me sick of him, however, so I must unfollow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mad Men &#8211; Awesomely fifties&#8221; &#8211; isn&#8217;t it set in the sixties?</p>
<p>I was really enjoying it for a time, but I got tired of Don being such a dick to the women. Connor from Angel was an inspired casting choice for the role he plays.</p>
<p>Flashpoint didn&#8217;t grab me, but I&#8217;ll give it another go since so many mentioned it.</p>
<p>I lasted nearly one season of Battlestar, it&#8217;s not for me. I might be able to suffer the oh-so-serious military setting if I found the bad guys compelling or liked any of the characters. I will watch anything with Michelle Forbes, though, so her guest star as that Admiral was worth sticking around for.</p>
<p>My appetite for House is dwarfed by the amount of it they&#8217;ve produced. I think I would have liked it to be a film.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t watch either Mock vs Got News often enough to judge these days, but when David Mitchell hosts the latter I&#8217;m there. QI is king. Fry&#8217;s Twitter is making me sick of him, however, so I must unfollow.</p>
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		By: Jason L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, you Lost fans and your crazy, paranoid, accurate conspiracy theories.

Speaking of superannuated TV shows (c&#039;mon segue, don&#039;t fail me now!), I&#039;ve somehow been reminded by this of &lt;a href=&quot;http://dumbbaby.net/a/057.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a story I like about The Drew Carey Show&lt;/a&gt;. Apparently, the final couple of years were spent in a contract vortex where the production company had to make the show, and ABC had to pay them for it, but there was no network oversight and no intention of sticking any of the episodes on air anytime soon. 

The article (within an article) tells the depressing side of it - actors doing work that will basically be thrown away - but barely touches on what happens creatively on a sitcom that no longer needs to chase ratings. Apparently they did lots of musicals - a form that cast was nearly unique in sometimes pulling off - as well as...paedophile jokes? The writers at Dumbbaby say it&#039;s still basically TDCS, but I keep meaning to check out a few episodes of The Twilight Zone Drew Carey Show for myself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you Lost fans and your crazy, paranoid, accurate conspiracy theories.</p>
<p>Speaking of superannuated TV shows (c&#8217;mon segue, don&#8217;t fail me now!), I&#8217;ve somehow been reminded by this of <a href="http://dumbbaby.net/a/057.shtml" rel="nofollow">a story I like about The Drew Carey Show</a>. Apparently, the final couple of years were spent in a contract vortex where the production company had to make the show, and ABC had to pay them for it, but there was no network oversight and no intention of sticking any of the episodes on air anytime soon. </p>
<p>The article (within an article) tells the depressing side of it &#8211; actors doing work that will basically be thrown away &#8211; but barely touches on what happens creatively on a sitcom that no longer needs to chase ratings. Apparently they did lots of musicals &#8211; a form that cast was nearly unique in sometimes pulling off &#8211; as well as&#8230;paedophile jokes? The writers at Dumbbaby say it&#8217;s still basically TDCS, but I keep meaning to check out a few episodes of The Twilight Zone Drew Carey Show for myself.</p>
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		By: Iain "DDude" Dawson		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-46335</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of Lost, I just got your bloop reference. (See comment in Trust Me.)]]></description>
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		By: Dante		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Jaz

He&#039;s deliberately based on Holmes, the patient in the first episode was named &#039;Irene Adler&#039; after a character in the books.

Wilson is his Watson.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jaz</p>
<p>He&#8217;s deliberately based on Holmes, the patient in the first episode was named &#8216;Irene Adler&#8217; after a character in the books.</p>
<p>Wilson is his Watson.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Flight of the Conchords is hilarious, even better than Summer Heights High.]]></description>
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		By: Jazmeister		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-46331</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They should have a Dark OBE for Dark Knights. Dicks.

Also, House is sherlock holmes, right? He has a cane, a drug habit, always solving mysteries with full-force logic. I watch one or two on that black day that my brother bought the boxed set and watched it. I saw bits while bringing him food, emptying his bucket, etc. It&#039;s weird for Hugh Laurie to talk like that. He&#039;s weird. You&#039;re weird.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should have a Dark OBE for Dark Knights. Dicks.</p>
<p>Also, House is sherlock holmes, right? He has a cane, a drug habit, always solving mysteries with full-force logic. I watch one or two on that black day that my brother bought the boxed set and watched it. I saw bits while bringing him food, emptying his bucket, etc. It&#8217;s weird for Hugh Laurie to talk like that. He&#8217;s weird. You&#8217;re weird.</p>
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		By: Aspro		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Indeed Sir Fry has been busy, providing voiceovers for direct line sodding commercials... although he is easily redeemed for QI,The Hitchhiker&#039;s Guide to the Galaxy and the wonderful Little Big Planet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed Sir Fry has been busy, providing voiceovers for direct line sodding commercials&#8230; although he is easily redeemed for QI,The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide to the Galaxy and the wonderful Little Big Planet.</p>
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		By: Roadrunner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Someone needs to start a petition to get Stephen Fry knighted :D
Not me though.]]></description>
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Not me though.</p>
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		By: Bobsy		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-46327</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The News Quiz is better than HIGNFY too.

And yes, I know about Sir Stephen of Fry. I get mildly rage-tastic that he doesn&#039;t podcast more often, but then feel all guilty because I know he&#039;s doing more important and more awesome things instead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The News Quiz is better than HIGNFY too.</p>
<p>And yes, I know about Sir Stephen of Fry. I get mildly rage-tastic that he doesn&#8217;t podcast more often, but then feel all guilty because I know he&#8217;s doing more important and more awesome things instead.</p>
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		By: Dante		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your wrongness is remarkable Bobsy, Mock the Week is but a pale imitator kept alive primarilly by Frankie Boyle, HIGNFY is a national instution, and with good cause.

QI is brilliant though. Did you know Stephen Fry has a podcast and a twitter account?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your wrongness is remarkable Bobsy, Mock the Week is but a pale imitator kept alive primarilly by Frankie Boyle, HIGNFY is a national instution, and with good cause.</p>
<p>QI is brilliant though. Did you know Stephen Fry has a podcast and a twitter account?</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, and Mock the Week is far, far funnier than Have I Got News For You. The latter is a tired old donkey that needs to be smacked with sticks to get it to bleat, the former is a sprightly little sprite that douses comedy magic sparkle dust over the nation while it sleeps at midnight...

I may have gone a little overboard on that. Anyway, QI&#039;s ace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Mock the Week is far, far funnier than Have I Got News For You. The latter is a tired old donkey that needs to be smacked with sticks to get it to bleat, the former is a sprightly little sprite that douses comedy magic sparkle dust over the nation while it sleeps at midnight&#8230;</p>
<p>I may have gone a little overboard on that. Anyway, QI&#8217;s ace.</p>
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		By: Bobsy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for not spoilering BSG for me, as I can&#039;t watch the new episodes at the moment and DVD releases are yonks away. And the internet is now a BSG spoiler minefield. Well, the BSG bits are anyway.

I&#039;ve never watched Flight of the Conchords, but my brother got me the CD for my birthday last week and it&#039;s pretty splendid. It is now officially on my radar.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for not spoilering BSG for me, as I can&#8217;t watch the new episodes at the moment and DVD releases are yonks away. And the internet is now a BSG spoiler minefield. Well, the BSG bits are anyway.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never watched Flight of the Conchords, but my brother got me the CD for my birthday last week and it&#8217;s pretty splendid. It is now officially on my radar.</p>
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		By: Bravedave		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2009-01-29-trash-television/#comment-46317</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Dante The way I see it the fact that they are labled &#039;not people&#039; is one of the many serious themes that are looked at by BG. Its as much an exploration of what makes &#039;us&#039; human as how similar we are to &#039;them&#039;.

Admittedly you have to get a ways through it to get to this (seasons 2, 3 and 4).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dante The way I see it the fact that they are labled &#8216;not people&#8217; is one of the many serious themes that are looked at by BG. Its as much an exploration of what makes &#8216;us&#8217; human as how similar we are to &#8216;them&#8217;.</p>
<p>Admittedly you have to get a ways through it to get to this (seasons 2, 3 and 4).</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just couldn&#039;t get on board with it Will. It may be too many years of Star Trek, but labeling a whole bunch of clearly sentient beings &#039;not people&#039;, and that being acceptable to everyone, put me right off.

Between that and the general unlikeable characters I ended up seeing no real reason to want humanity to survive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just couldn&#8217;t get on board with it Will. It may be too many years of Star Trek, but labeling a whole bunch of clearly sentient beings &#8216;not people&#8217;, and that being acceptable to everyone, put me right off.</p>
<p>Between that and the general unlikeable characters I ended up seeing no real reason to want humanity to survive.</p>
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		By: Ludo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All I’ve seen of Battlestar Galactica is the teaser for the first episode. A hot android meets a human ambassador in an abandoned space station, snogs him and then the space station blows up.  That’s sex, death and explosions all in the first 30 seconds – all boxes ticked I’d say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I’ve seen of Battlestar Galactica is the teaser for the first episode. A hot android meets a human ambassador in an abandoned space station, snogs him and then the space station blows up.  That’s sex, death and explosions all in the first 30 seconds – all boxes ticked I’d say.</p>
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		By: Will		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At the risk of fanboyism, I would disagree with Dante&#039;s assertion that Battlestar Galactica is a cynical show. It is an extreme show, certainly, focused as it is on the very edge of survival. And it is often a very dark show, for those same reasons. But it is also concerned with the things that allow people to be human, even in that extremity, and about finding nobility and purpose after your world has collapsed around you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of fanboyism, I would disagree with Dante&#8217;s assertion that Battlestar Galactica is a cynical show. It is an extreme show, certainly, focused as it is on the very edge of survival. And it is often a very dark show, for those same reasons. But it is also concerned with the things that allow people to be human, even in that extremity, and about finding nobility and purpose after your world has collapsed around you.</p>
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		By: Formerly Cpt.Muffin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trash Television drinking games anyone? I&#039;ve got a bottle of port and a bottle of jack ready and waiting.

And @Roadrunner, I feel like I should give you a massage or a footrub or something. I understand the hypocritical nihilism but seriously, you can admit to liking something without having to take a dig at something else. Liking things doesn&#039;t neccesarily make you seem naive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trash Television drinking games anyone? I&#8217;ve got a bottle of port and a bottle of jack ready and waiting.</p>
<p>And @Roadrunner, I feel like I should give you a massage or a footrub or something. I understand the hypocritical nihilism but seriously, you can admit to liking something without having to take a dig at something else. Liking things doesn&#8217;t neccesarily make you seem naive.</p>
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