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		By: Pentadact		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2006-09-28-bad-news/#comment-8248</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cheers Tom. I retract my wild and handsome allegations.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
I must admit this, from Kotaku&#039;s Eliza, just made me laugh:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&quot;I am situated directly over the throbbing, gelatinous heart of the gaming memewad. It&#039;s swampy, rotten and opaque, but one gets to recognize the amorphous feelings emanating from the evil cesspool of incoming RSS. An RSSpool, if you will.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Tom. I retract my wild and handsome allegations.</p>
<p>I must admit this, from Kotaku&#8217;s Eliza, just made me laugh:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;I am situated directly over the throbbing, gelatinous heart of the gaming memewad. It&#8217;s swampy, rotten and opaque, but one gets to recognize the amorphous feelings emanating from the evil cesspool of incoming RSS. An RSSpool, if you will.&#8221;</em></p>
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		By: Jason L		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2006-09-28-bad-news/#comment-8236</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bingo, Tom of EG. That&#039;s why my American browser hits EG several times a day :)&lt;p&gt;

Yep. &quot;Two years ago...? What is this &#039;controlling interest&#039; of which you speak? I don&#039;t follow.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo, Tom of EG. That&#8217;s why my American browser hits EG several times a day :)</p>
<p>Yep. &#8220;Two years ago&#8230;? What is this &#8216;controlling interest&#8217; of which you speak? I don&#8217;t follow.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Tom EG		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2006-09-28-bad-news/#comment-8228</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom EG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellently, that was followed by someone sending me an email announcing that EA has bought DICE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellently, that was followed by someone sending me an email announcing that EA has bought DICE.</p>
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		By: Tom EG		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2006-09-28-bad-news/#comment-8223</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom EG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the above, I sent Tom an email and he suggested I post some comments here. Since I *would* jump off a cliff if he asked me to...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;Br&gt;
Rockstar&#039;s confusing press release in May began:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;Br&gt;
CHUNK: &quot;This time, XboxÃ‚Â® Nation wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have to wait. Responding to the cries of millions of Xbox 360Ã¢â€žÂ¢ owners, Microsoft Corp. and Rockstar Games, the universally renowned publishing label of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc., have struck a groundbreaking agreement that brings Ã¢â‚¬Å“Grand Theft Auto IVÃ¢â‚¬Â to the Xbox 360 platform on day one of its global release.&quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;Br&gt;
And then it went on to say:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;Br&gt;
CHUNK: &quot;Separately, Microsoft and Rockstar Games are proud to announce a strategic alliance to provide exclusive episodic content for Xbox LiveÃ‚Â®, giving the community ever-expanding gameplay experiences that simply arenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t possible on other consoles.&quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;Br&gt;
What it didn&#039;t do was clarify whether they meant content for GTA IV or different, standalone content. When I asked them about it (both companies), they said they couldn&#039;t remove the ambiguity for me, so we cut the line from the original EG news item strapline which specified the content was for GTA IV. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;Br&gt;
Hence, the X06 announcement technically was a development, albeit a very slight one. In this case, the majority had reported the original line on an assumption, and that assumption was proved right. S&#039;not always the case, but even though it was here, it doesn&#039;t undermine Tom&#039;s point.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;Br&gt;
As I said to him, what we&#039;re seeing here is fairly typical of the internet games newsbeat, which is populated by an ever-growing number of websites - some small, some large - with differing degrees of journalistic ambition. Some simply parrot what&#039;s said elsewhere because they&#039;re just trying to keep their little band of warrior-readers up to date, and the checks and specifities are fewer. Others push harder and do &quot;UPDATE!&quot;s. What you generally don&#039;t see is people ignoring stories until everything&#039;s clear - something we&#039;re trying to do more often on EG, and currently getting about 40% right, I reckon.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;Br&gt;
(Publishers and platform holders are to some extent to blame for this, mind you - their continuing refusal to clarify things beyond &quot;that&#039;s just rumour and speculation&quot; often goads people into writing before all the ink&#039;s in the pen. Similarly, particularly on UK sites, regional offices and PR people&#039;s inability to comment often pushes us to write before we&#039;d like to, simply because if we hold off overnight for a US response, that US response will have been given to a US website during that time, and we end up reporting on a statement given to a competitor).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;Br&gt;
Anyway, the wider point is that aggregation of huge numbers of sites writing to differing levels obviously means that the truth&#039;s harder to separate from the fiction without a bit of legwork on the part of the reader (and in that case, who needs the news sites at all?); the net result of this is that the least informed readers populate and empower the least informed sites. As I also said to Tom though, this is sort of good for people at websites or magazines like PC Gamer, which aims higher editorially, because it&#039;s bound to drive people who won&#039;t stand for it into their arms. That sector can only really grow as the other one pushes further and further in the direction it&#039;s already going.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;Br&gt;
In other words, we&#039;ll probably never be rid of aggregators going mental next month with stories we&#039;ve already read today, but there are some benefits to the present situation. Plus, short of a cull, it&#039;s difficult to see how you reverse it. Blogs have lowered the bar; the adjustment will come readers, not writers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the above, I sent Tom an email and he suggested I post some comments here. Since I *would* jump off a cliff if he asked me to&#8230;</p>
<p>Rockstar&#8217;s confusing press release in May began:</p>
<p>CHUNK: &#8220;This time, XboxÃ‚Â® Nation wonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have to wait. Responding to the cries of millions of Xbox 360Ã¢â€žÂ¢ owners, Microsoft Corp. and Rockstar Games, the universally renowned publishing label of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc., have struck a groundbreaking agreement that brings Ã¢â‚¬Å“Grand Theft Auto IVÃ¢â‚¬Â to the Xbox 360 platform on day one of its global release.&#8221;</p>
<p>And then it went on to say:</p>
<p>CHUNK: &#8220;Separately, Microsoft and Rockstar Games are proud to announce a strategic alliance to provide exclusive episodic content for Xbox LiveÃ‚Â®, giving the community ever-expanding gameplay experiences that simply arenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t possible on other consoles.&#8221;</p>
<p>What it didn&#8217;t do was clarify whether they meant content for GTA IV or different, standalone content. When I asked them about it (both companies), they said they couldn&#8217;t remove the ambiguity for me, so we cut the line from the original EG news item strapline which specified the content was for GTA IV. </p>
<p>Hence, the X06 announcement technically was a development, albeit a very slight one. In this case, the majority had reported the original line on an assumption, and that assumption was proved right. S&#8217;not always the case, but even though it was here, it doesn&#8217;t undermine Tom&#8217;s point.</p>
<p>As I said to him, what we&#8217;re seeing here is fairly typical of the internet games newsbeat, which is populated by an ever-growing number of websites &#8211; some small, some large &#8211; with differing degrees of journalistic ambition. Some simply parrot what&#8217;s said elsewhere because they&#8217;re just trying to keep their little band of warrior-readers up to date, and the checks and specifities are fewer. Others push harder and do &#8220;UPDATE!&#8221;s. What you generally don&#8217;t see is people ignoring stories until everything&#8217;s clear &#8211; something we&#8217;re trying to do more often on EG, and currently getting about 40% right, I reckon.</p>
<p>(Publishers and platform holders are to some extent to blame for this, mind you &#8211; their continuing refusal to clarify things beyond &#8220;that&#8217;s just rumour and speculation&#8221; often goads people into writing before all the ink&#8217;s in the pen. Similarly, particularly on UK sites, regional offices and PR people&#8217;s inability to comment often pushes us to write before we&#8217;d like to, simply because if we hold off overnight for a US response, that US response will have been given to a US website during that time, and we end up reporting on a statement given to a competitor).</p>
<p>Anyway, the wider point is that aggregation of huge numbers of sites writing to differing levels obviously means that the truth&#8217;s harder to separate from the fiction without a bit of legwork on the part of the reader (and in that case, who needs the news sites at all?); the net result of this is that the least informed readers populate and empower the least informed sites. As I also said to Tom though, this is sort of good for people at websites or magazines like PC Gamer, which aims higher editorially, because it&#8217;s bound to drive people who won&#8217;t stand for it into their arms. That sector can only really grow as the other one pushes further and further in the direction it&#8217;s already going.</p>
<p>In other words, we&#8217;ll probably never be rid of aggregators going mental next month with stories we&#8217;ve already read today, but there are some benefits to the present situation. Plus, short of a cull, it&#8217;s difficult to see how you reverse it. Blogs have lowered the bar; the adjustment will come readers, not writers.</p>
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		By: Jason L		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2006-09-28-bad-news/#comment-8217</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 03:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, Eckhart calls your article a &quot;nice little temper tantrum&quot;, but it would appear that they may have taken it to heart a little...in a way: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/misquote/peter-moore-guarantees-100-million-360-sales-204435.php&quot;&gt;&quot;Headline answer: yes! Real answer: no!&quot;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Eckhart calls your article a &#8220;nice little temper tantrum&#8221;, but it would appear that they may have taken it to heart a little&#8230;in a way: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/misquote/peter-moore-guarantees-100-million-360-sales-204435.php">&#8220;Headline answer: yes! Real answer: no!&#8221;</a></p>
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		By: Jason L		</title>
		<link>https://www.pentadact.com/2006-09-28-bad-news/#comment-8127</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ack! &quot;...below even a few of the better fora.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ack! &#8220;&#8230;below even a few of the better fora.&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yep. I came late to VG news blogs, I think around the beginning of the year. I read Kotaku and Joystiq for a few months, but eventually I realised that every time I saw one of their stories, I was going in with the assumption that it was deliberately misleading and inflammatory, repeated from some earlier post, completely irrelevant and subjective, or all three. The only VG news feed I currently check is the aggregator at WiiGamer.com for factual updates like preorders and official release date changes, and it&#039;s sort of funny to see the same junk appear up to six times verbatim.&lt;p&gt; 

I do occasionally drop in to read one of Eliza Gauger&#039;s posts, as she often seems to&lt;br&gt;
A. Write her own original interpretations or summaries of news events without formulaic misanthropy and vulgar humour,&lt;br&gt;
B. Read sources which report facts or events,&lt;br&gt;
and C. As a professional writer - &lt;i&gt;paid&lt;/i&gt; to &lt;i&gt;write&lt;/i&gt; - properly read, write and spell her own &lt;i&gt;native language&lt;/i&gt;. If I saw Crecente, Eckhart, or any of the forgettable chimps at AOL Games/Joystiq say &quot;take a peak&quot; one more time, I was going to get ulcers.&lt;p&gt;

So yes. VG blogs started out brilliant, but their laziness has now dropped them]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. I came late to VG news blogs, I think around the beginning of the year. I read Kotaku and Joystiq for a few months, but eventually I realised that every time I saw one of their stories, I was going in with the assumption that it was deliberately misleading and inflammatory, repeated from some earlier post, completely irrelevant and subjective, or all three. The only VG news feed I currently check is the aggregator at WiiGamer.com for factual updates like preorders and official release date changes, and it&#8217;s sort of funny to see the same junk appear up to six times verbatim.</p>
<p>I do occasionally drop in to read one of Eliza Gauger&#8217;s posts, as she often seems to<br />
A. Write her own original interpretations or summaries of news events without formulaic misanthropy and vulgar humour,<br />
B. Read sources which report facts or events,<br />
and C. As a professional writer &#8211; <i>paid</i> to <i>write</i> &#8211; properly read, write and spell her own <i>native language</i>. If I saw Crecente, Eckhart, or any of the forgettable chimps at AOL Games/Joystiq say &#8220;take a peak&#8221; one more time, I was going to get ulcers.</p>
<p>So yes. VG blogs started out brilliant, but their laziness has now dropped them</p>
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