Could go either way on the second series, I’d say; there is, for example, an out-and-out magical/supernatural monster now, but people do seem to be playing Prophets and Seers a bit less than they were. I’m not really following the show until it’s on DVD, so I may just have missed a series of lectures on karma as it relates to potato chips, shrug.

20060208: Bet you’re regretting that crack about time-traveling radios now, eh Tom? :)

So; should I watch series 2, or will it just piss me off even more?

I also spotted the Gameboy slip-up, and it planted the seeds of skepticism in my mind. I then looked up the dates of the invention of dynamite and the dates of the abolition of slavery, and that doesn’t sync either. The discoverer of Nitro Glycerine didn’t blow himself up either. Ahh! The whole thing ruined by one simple research cock-up that the actor playing Walt probably could have pointed out anyway.

You lose lost, you lose.

:(

Somewhere, at some point, someone involved with Lost – Lindelof or JJ – said that the entire mystery could be explain with science.

I figure this has to be some sort of general concept which, when applied to the show, explains the philosophy behind certain events. I can’t imagine that there is a specific scientific logic behind all of it, down to the fine details.

Thusly, I posit that the show is based around Newton’s Third Law of Motion – ‘Every action has an equal and opposite reaction’ – and Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.

Bear with me. This is all fairly tenuous, probably.

Basically, there seems to be a correlation between a bunch of events in the show, where while one thing happens to one character, the opposite happens to another. Examples:

Claire looking to give up her unborn child, only to decide not to in the end.
Michael, in an eerily similar lawyer’s office, fighting to keep his child, only to decide not to in the end.

Charlie not going to go through with conning someone out of their money, only to change his mind in the end and do it.
Sawyer going to go through with conning someone out of their money, only to change his mind in the end and NOT do it.

Shannon’s dad being involved in a head-on collision with another driver, and being instantly killed. The woman involved in the collision was Jack’s future wife, who would afterward mysteriously regain her ability to walk.
The man who first heard the numbers and used them to win a game at a county fair being involved in a head-on car crash only to survive without a scratch on him, while the woman involved – admittedly in the same car as him – losing her leg.

Locke mysteriously beginning to lose his ability to walk on the island again, only to regain it after Boone loses his ability to walk due to his leg being crushed (and then he eventually lost his life, admittedly).

Sayid saving the first woman he loved from a firing squad in Iraq.
The second woman Sayid loved, Shannon, getting shot in the chest mere moments after he told her he loved her.

Hurley winning the lottery and becoming rich.
Shannon losing all the money she had and becoming poor.

Charlie and Sayid getting Claire’s baby back from the French Woman.
Walt being taken from Michael.

There are loads of others I’m sure I’m forgetting, but you get the picture.

As for the involvement of the Theory of Relativity: The theory was conceived in order to explain the fact that electromagnetic waves do not conform to the Newtonian laws of motion.

And what’s in the island? A big ass magnet.

Tenuous, but I can’t help but feel there’s too much here for it to be coincidence.

Perhaps entering the numbers balances things out. If the numbers do something good, then the machine when activated makes sure to cause something appropriately bad to balance things out. However, the events caused by the machine aren’t in effect on the island itself.

So, for example, Locke losing his ability to walk (perhaps due to Jack’s future wife regaining hers) might have been caused by the activation of the Numbers Machine. But now he’s on the island, he can walk again.

Hurley’s bad luck? Caused by the Numbers Machine, but now he’s on the island he’s experiencing bad luck considerably less frequently – and any bad luck you could say he has isn’t directly centered around him, but everyone on the island.

Maybe there’s more, I don’t know. But this is my one big crazy obsessive theory, and I’m throwing it out there.

I figure this has to be some sort of general concept which, when applied to the show, explains the philosophy behind certain events. I can’t imagine that there is a specific scientific logic behind all of it, down to the fine details.

Thusly, I posit that the show is based around Newton’s Third Law of Motion – ‘Every action has an equal and opposite reaction’ – and Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.

Bear with me. This is all fairly tenuous, probably.

Basically, there seems to be a correlation between a bunch of events in the show, where while one thing happens to one character, the opposite happens to another. Examples:

Claire looking to give up her unborn child, only to decide not to in the end.
Michael, in an eerily similar lawyer’s office, fighting to keep his child, only to decide not to in the end.

Charlie not going to go through with conning someone out of their money, only to change his mind in the end and do it.
Sawyer going to go through with conning someone out of their money, only to change his mind in the end and NOT do it.

Shannon’s dad being involved in a head-on collision with another driver, and being instantly killed. The woman involved in the collision was Jack’s future wife, who would afterward mysteriously regain her ability to walk.
The man who first heard the numbers and used them to win a game at a county fair being involved in a head-on car crash only to survive without a scratch on him, while the woman involved – admittedly in the same car as him – losing her leg.

Locke mysteriously beginning to lose his ability to walk on the island again, only to regain it after Boone loses his ability to walk due to his leg being crushed (and then he eventually lost his life, admittedly).

Sayid saving the first woman he loved from a firing squad in Iraq.
The second woman Sayid loved, Shannon, getting shot in the chest mere moments after he told her he loved her.

Hurley winning the lottery and becoming rich.
Shannon losing all the money she had and becoming poor.

Charlie and Sayid getting Claire’s baby back from the French Woman.
Walt being taken from Michael.

There are loads of others I’m sure I’m forgetting, but you get the picture.

As for the involvement of the Theory of Relativity: The theory was conceived in order to explain the fact that electromagnetic waves do not conform to the Newtonian laws of motion.

And what’s in the island? A big as magnet.

Tenuous, but I can’t help but feel there’s too much here for it to be coincidence.

Perhaps entering the numbers balances things out. If the numbers do something good, then the machine when activated makes sure to cause something appropriately bad to balance things out. However, the events caused by the machine aren’t in effect on the island itself.

So, for example, Locke losing his ability to walk (perhaps due to Jack’s future wife regaining hers) might have been caused by the activation of the Numbers Machine. But now he’s on the island, he can walk again.

Hurley’s bad luck? Caused by the Numbers Machine, but now he’s on the island he’s experiencing bad luck considerably less frequently – and any bad luck you could say he has isn’t directly centered around him, but everyone on the island.

Maybe there’s more, I don’t know. But this is my one big crazy obsessive theory, and I’m throwing it out there.

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I don’t see why they can’t just make a computer program to do it though. I think the video said that there was an incident which meant they had to push the numbers in every 108 minutes. So basically something has become unstable and the numbers stabilise it, or the numbers keep something at bay.

I think a lot of the questions that have been answered in this series have took the show in a total different direction. It used to be that you could believe anything could happen in the show, but now it seems to be grounded in one place.

I have to say I’m with Jack on the button thing. In that situation I’d leave it. I wouldn’t be in the bunker when the countdown ran out, sure, but I couldn’t see it destroying the world if it doesn’t get the number – why would you set up something like that? The video says because the last one went wrong – this would just be a new way for it do so. The only reason not to automate such a thing is if it’s there to prove a human is present, which you’d want to do if you wanted to make sure they were there to do some other maintenance operation that can’t be automated. They’re not doing anything else, and nothing’s blown up, so they should stop proving they’re there.

Surprised Hurley was willing to type them in, too.

Things I’m interested in: The Monster, The Real Others, The Disease, What Happened To Locke. Things I’m not: The Other Survivors, The Bunker, Jack And Kate. Jack Or Kate, Really.

Would explain the quarantine sign.

Or maybe you don’t die of radiation poisoning, maybe you just mutate and become a super human “other.” Who knows?

Glad to see it’s back to character development. Also thought it was a nice poignant moment when we discovered Roses husband was alive.

Ah yes. Must watch out for those exploding bananas.

NBC TV movie; was originally intended to be a TV show but the pilot never made it. Written by William Bleich, who also wrote Deadly Messages, which was directed by Jack Bender, and Jack Bender who is a Lost exec producer/director.

Maybe they were tampering with something that shouldn’t have been tampered with.

Maybe they found an alien spaceship under the island and somehow set it’s self destruct off.

You’ve just got to love Locke more and more with every trackback of his story. He’s just had such a crappy life and it seems like the island has given him some hope. I really liked the part when he was telling Jack that he needed help and that he couldn’t do the job alone. I wonder what happened to his girlfriend as well, it must be connected to his paralysis.

“The story starts conventionally enough with friends sharing ghost stories ’round the fire on Christmas Eve. One of the guests tells about a governess at a country house plagued by supernatural visitors. But in the hands of Henry James, the master of nuance, this little tale of terror is an exquisite gem of sexual and psychological ambiguity. Only the young governess can see the ghosts; only she suspects that the previous governess and her lover are controlling the two orphaned children (a girl and a boy) for some evil purpose. The household staff don’t know what she’s talking about, the children are evasive when questioned, and the master of the house (the children’s uncle) is absent. Why does the young girl claim not to see a perfectly visible woman standing on the far side of the lake? Are the children being deceptive, or is the governess being paranoid? By leaving the questions unanswered, The Turn of Screw generates spine-tingling anxiety in its mesmerized readers.”

Anyway, that’s Episode 3 out of the way. Any thoughts?

I particularly liked Locke’s father saying “You needed a father figure” rather than admitting he’s Locke’s dad. As for everything else… yeah, whatever. I’m just not sure where this is all going. Explaining it as some secret lab is fine. But I think we’re being strung along again as to what this is all really about (the fact these guys were put on the island for a reason).

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Notice how they’ve used almost the exact same set for the scenes but changes a few cosmetics.

“So the world’s still out there?”

“As far as I know”

I rewatched that bit several times and there is absolutely nothing there. One of the writers then says “Yeah, but you don’t really see anything”. Something tells me that’s actually a large part of the monster’s identity.

I definitely think it’s subterranean.

What do we know about the island since finding the insignia imprinted on its tail?

Plus if you knew there was some killer monster(s), giant polar bears and crazy people on the island you wouldn’t really been in a rush to walk around it.

I don’t think Desmond has anything to do with The Others directly. As in, he doesn’t know them or anything. But i do think he is connected to them. It makes no sense for all these people to be on the island and not be connected. Something connects them all, we just don’t know what it is yet. It would be too coincidental for them all to be on the island for different reasons.

What Desmond is doing in the bunker is connected to what the others are doing and thats connected to why they crashed on the island i’m guessing.

Who are The Others anyway? Am i right in thinking they are the French womans research team?

The only thing I find frustrating about Lost is that they never think to just circle the coast some time. There could be a resort just around the corner. It’s hard to believe in Sayid’s resourcefulness and Jack’s leadership when neither of them have tried to do the one thing that would get them an idea of what the island’s like, and what else is on it.

Although the bunker doesn’t really look recent. It could have been there for a while with a team in that Desmond has replaced. “Him” could be Desmonds replacement.

The typing of the numbers could be nothing at all. Maybe it’s just a test to see how long Desmond will do it before giving up hope.

I reckon there is no disease. Or if there is a disease, the disease is actually what they call it when you turn crazy and think the island is alive etc.

Did anyone notice the insignia from the bunker and Desmond’s clothes on the shark?

Actually that wasn’t really a spoiler. I just haven’t seen that episode yet.

Anyway. I’ve listened to Walt’s message a bunch of times, played backwards, and it sounds to me like “Don’t press the button. The button’s bad.” The “Don’t” is not actually there, but it’s there, sorta. You can’t hear it, but it’s there. Hard to explain.

I can recommend never being a hooker on a network show.

It’s a wonderfully constructed show so far. The characters are both appealing and revolting — the writers really understand that flaws, not positive character traits, are what make memorable and compelling characters.

The Season 2 opener was fantastic. Instead of dodging the issue of what was in the hatch, as I thought they would, they crammed our faces in it and still managed to avoid answering any of our questions. Brilliantly done.

Locke, too, is my favorite character, and yet I worry about him. He’s glimpsed something the others haven’t really seen: a pattern to the things happening on the island. I think he’s really only seen a part of the pattern, however, which is dangerous — it’s like trying to reconstruct an entire dinosaur with a few toe bones. I suspect he is in for a rude awakening.

I think it’s been a remarkable show so far, and I hope it’ll continue as such.