Comments on: Bad Inception Reviews

By: From Holland said...

From Holland said... — Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:07:50 +0000

Movie maker don't explain everything in there movies thats true. But if you want to tell you're story a good framework is gold. Take Jurassic park for instance, part one had a 15 to 20 min sequence explaining why there are dinosaurs on the island. Its was a clever mix between fiction and science. This had to be told because its the keystone of the story. The audience is buying in to the explanation and they can sit back for the ride.

The explanation for mutants in X-men, another leap in evolution caused by mutation. Okay you can accept that ore not. If you do you can enjoy the X-men movies.

But its just kinda strange creating an entire movie about entering dreams, and not explaining the mechanism ore perhaps the impact on society. Its the unexplained centerpiece of the movie. literately not one mention is made. And that in a movie that tries to explain the smallest details.

Because the movie is not build on a solid foundation i could not click with the the characters and drama you are right about that.

My purpose fore writing the comment above was not to call people that liked inception lemmings ore lairs and i apologize if it seems that way. If you like the movie and the concepts then thats great and you got what you paid for.

Reading the comments above just gave me the sense that people who don't like the movie a retarded, and so i probably was a bit sharp in my comment.

By: Jason L

Jason L — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:31:32 +0000

I'm sure you do; fortunately that's not what happened here. The only people criticised here have first called the movie dumb and transparent, then said themselves in the same breath that they were confused by it. That's not the action of a fool, but it is the action of a trolling liar. If you don't like the movie, the most probable cause is that you didn't click with the characters and drama. That's sad, but there's nothing to be done about it. As in any good sci-fi, the rules help but they're not the foundation of the action. Where can I get some trilithium? How does an entire galaxy avoid ever inventing gunpowder? What frequency does the Sonic Screwdriver run on? Bah, all this magical bullshit! BTW, it's sillier than you remember; the suitcase 'an' wires connect 'tho' the users' wrists. You're welcome. Those of us who like the movie are not distracted by the structure. We are not saying that the Emperor's cloak is beautiful; we are saying 'Woooow, he is ripped'. I was moved by the character interactions. I had great fun in the action sequences. I was utterly terrified of and for Moll. I love this movie, and it has nothing to do with membership in some club. I wish it had clicked with everybody. Please do not call me a liar or a lemming.

By: From Holland said...

From Holland said... — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:29:38 +0000

I really get irritated when people pretend this is a smart movie, and then tell you that you probably don't ''get'' the movie because you didn't like it. Meaning your not smart ore perhaps philosophical enough. The main flaw of the movie is its framework, for example; The movie the Matrix has a framework where you can say; okay that makes sense because humans life in a digital prison created by robots. Now you can do all sorts of weird shit in the movie. (only liked the first movie) But Inception just expects you to accept that you can enter a dream with a ''magical'' suitcase an some wires connected tho a human head. Then they distract you with a lot of visual bullshit and ''rules'' to make it seem complicated. Manipulating you to say the movie is good because you don't want to seem dumb. Kinda like the story of ''The Emperor's New Clothes'' Nolan had a ambition to make a movie about entering dreams. He didn't had any idea how the entering in a dream should work so he just didn't explain it. Its like putting pink flying elephants in the movie en just say; accept it. The character are flat boring and two dimensional. The way Ellen Page character was recruited and the training felt very forced and meaningless. I was really exited to see this movie but it was quite disappointing .

By: Tristan

Tristan — Wed, 18 May 2011 01:04:52 +0000

the ending of the movie was very rosebud-esk, here is a joke I saw about inception,
http://ponderingstuf... ...inception/

By: Jason L

Jason L — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 03:34:29 +0000

What happens if you respond with more reactive bull about how the film didn't sufficiently spoonfeed you? OH SHIT

By: steve

steve — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:26:32 +0000

BTW it is not that complex.. If it had the right complexity it would make sense. These ideas are not exclusively Nolan's and he did not create them. Read Carlos Castaneda and you'll realise that Nolan only has a little piece of the pie. This is an introduction to REAL dream techniques. Understand that, and maybe you will piss your pants.

By: steve

steve — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:17:34 +0000

Actually the review is very accurate. Your comments on the page are just adolescent angry reaction. There is no contradiction in the review as he is describing it from many angles. He is not saying he didn't like it because it was smarter than him. It TRIES to be smart. The film ends up just a spy heist.. As I watched it I conjured up a better ending to it in my imagination, so . And so the conclusion was a let down. It tries to be clever and doesn't really achieve it. It DOES look like planet Hoth - this part has no integral part within the story and could be left out. The characters are not "human" - there is not appropriate development. And the girl IS woefully miscast. It is a decent film - well the first half of it - but as it gets into it, it does not make sense. E.g. go into target's subconscious which is completely infested by DiCaprio's dream houses. ??? And why dreamers walk slowly everywhere? And he is right, the "bigger gun" thing had to be consistent. It is like someone wrote good part of the film and the rest was pulled out of backside. Don't respond to this post with more reactive bull about how the film "explained this".. no it didn't. (Only thing I disagree with is about Memento - Memento IS an excellent film)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 23:52:37 +0000

It was just a mish-mash of ideas lifted mostly from Philip K Dick, interspersed with (admittedly impressive) action scenes. The characters were crap. The ending was predictable and lazy, they just copied Total Recall.

By: james

james — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:42:22 +0000

If you want a great, deep, emotional, and well crafted film then watch John Hughes 'The Breakfast Club'. Now there's a real director.

By: Nolan

Nolan — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:37:59 +0000

I'm sorry, I apologise for recreating the Matrix.

By: Jason L

Jason L — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 04:10:28 +0000

Just watched it again on DVD. They don't use masks in the cab. God dammit. It's all falling apart like the projections have noticed me.

(No, I still loved it.)

By: Psiloc

Psiloc — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:39:35 +0000

Just watched the movie and I didn’t even catch the characters names. Must have been sleeping.

By: Bret

Bret — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:56:11 +0000

Genius may be subjective, but I find idiocy quite easy to catch.

It comes with the defense "Subjective lol".

The widespread use of "lol" or as I like to think of it to preserve my sanity "Upside-down Geth" would be a bane of internet debate if it was not so useful for isolating bad arguments quickly and efficiently.

By: Jaz

Jaz — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:34:13 +0000

Quite an accolade. Sounds like I should watch Shutter Island.

By: the "unreasonable" critic

the "unreasonable" critic — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:25:05 +0000

Well... genius is subjective lol. The actual point is that Inception doesn't deserve it's rating. Yeah it's a fun movie which offers a 'groundbreaking' experience but should it actually be in the top 10 and be 'better' than shutter island? I would say shutter island also offers this rare experience with the exception of better directing, greater suspense, a decent script and a sound plot that allows all of these to gel nicely into a quality film. Forget about inception - it's all about shutter island. Last comment, peace

By: Jason L

Jason L — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:45:32 +0000

Yeah, blah blah IQ versus functional intelligence. You're missing the point; what's important here is that Unreasonable doesn't just like the film less than us, he's better than us because he holds that opinion. Unlike those of us of mere 'above average intelligence', his genius lets him see through the pseudointellectual facade Nolan's thrown up by demanding the audience think a little about alternate physics and multiple storylines during a whiz-bang adventure flick. Sadly, it's been impossible so far to convince us sheeple to throw off the shackles of really enjoying that rare experience. But he keeps trying, bless his heart.

By: the "unreasonable" critic

the "unreasonable" critic — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:58:16 +0000

Lol @Jaz. Im not even gonna comment on that. @Entropy I never said it wasn't a good movie. I said I disagree it's a smart film and the fact that the majority hail it as a masterpiece. The film is good with what it has to offer - action and great visuals. But then again so does 300 and no one is hailing that a masterpiece. For what it is, inception is a good movie deserving a rating of 7-8. Not the blow out of proportions 9.0 or whatever it's current rating is in imdb which commands a top 8 rank in the top 250 films. I think people bumped up their rating by 1-2 points by also thinking it's an intellectual film. Nolan sure knows how to make a film that sells - we have to watch it twice to fully understand it, and don't say it's easy to understand. It's easy to accept one theory and ignore other possibilities. There is no one definitive answer which is why people loved it - pick a theory that makes most sense to you and you've got a 'very intellectual' film with the luxury of action and visuals 'on the side'. I've almost convinced myself it deserves to be in the top 10...

By: Jaz

Jaz — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:07:20 +0000

They have a word for the level of intelligence that most people have. That word is average. I disagree that it's better to be smarter - infact, I'm not really sure I believe that intelligence exists at all. I'd argue that we don't know enough about our own brains and the forces that drive us to excel or to fail, to grasp concepts and invent things, to have a useful opinion on intelligence. Who's to say that dumb kid isn't just dyslexic? Afraid of being singled out for correctness and nerditude? Terrified of academia? Who's to say that the problem isn't a lack of potential knowledge and insight ("Intelligence"), but a culture of anti-knowledge that is perceived by the weak and afraid as a club whose favour is more important than intelligence? Because that's what it looks like to me. I think Inception was proper bo.

By: Entropy

Entropy — Mon, 17 Jan 2011 02:58:36 +0000

Low intelligence is bad in its own right, but high intelligence has a really high chance of coming with some nasty drawbacks- insanity being one of many. Maybe being average-to-just-above-average is normal (so much as that word applies to anything), and therefore the popular opinion is correct? The majority is rarely wrong, after all. You say the movie is an action flick. If it is, then it did a really, really good job. The zero-gravity fight was incredible, and the last half to last quarter is full of great action and tension. By that metric at least, it's a good movie then, yes? The way I interpreted the ending was that it didn't matter if the top fell or not. DiCaprio's character was with his children again, and he didn't care if he was in a dream or not. Either way, he was happy. Besides, ambiguity isn't automatically a bad thing. Ambiguity inspires critical thinking and debate. When you leave a movie like, say, Jackass, you're laughing with your friends, yes, but there's not a lot to talk about. Leave Inception (Or possibly Shutter Island- I haven't watched it, but I mean to eventually) and you're talking with your friends about the intricacies of the plot. Either way, I had fun with it (enough that I'm defending it on the internet) and I'm not a stupid person. Not the brightest bulb in the box either, mind you, but I'm not an idiot, and it's silly to say that only morons like this movie.

By: the "unreasonable" critic

the "unreasonable" critic — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:36:42 +0000

Average intelligence is only good if you have below average intelligence. And since most people have it it's not good - it's standard. I liked the reference to RPGs. Now can we go back to reviewing the film?