http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/ A games writer in the UK who also sometimes tries to make things. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:40:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-183182 Jaz Sat, 29 May 2010 12:08:37 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-183182 I really don't think you can put out a fire using fire. That's like trying to dry something by hosing it down with water. You can save things from fire by making sure the fire never reaches them, but that isn't the same thing. I just felt like explaining that because my eyes hurt and I want to feel smart.
I just felt like explaining that because my eyes hurt and I want to feel smart.]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-183022 Pentadact Sat, 29 May 2010 06:37:20 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-183022 ARGH. http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-182844 Wesman Sat, 29 May 2010 00:47:34 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-182844 By the way, Pentadact, They actually DO use fire to fight fire! http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-38234 Ronnie Sat, 08 Nov 2008 12:26:19 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-38234 Fire! http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20901
http://www.gamasutra... ...tory=20901]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37545 peterd102 Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:26:24 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37545 Doctor Disaster is Right. It also starves to orginal fire of oxygen. w00t Science! @ Bret - I shall. Half-life 2 is a fairly accurate simulator of what do do with a zombie attack, traps are useful, as zombies are dumb, a few controlled bursts to the head is the best way to eliminate them and fire can be effective but it is slow and has no loyalty. Your right about the flamethrowers vs Aliens tatic. Its probably the best possible weapon to use against them as it keeps them back and might reduce the possibility of acid reaching you. The Ripley et al paper shortly to be published may confirm or refute this idea.
@ Bret - I shall. Half-life 2 is a fairly accurate simulator of what do do with a zombie attack, traps are useful, as zombies are dumb, a few controlled bursts to the head is the best way to eliminate them and fire can be effective but it is slow and has no loyalty.

Your right about the flamethrowers vs Aliens tatic. Its probably the best possible weapon to use against them as it keeps them back and might reduce the possibility of acid reaching you. The Ripley et al paper shortly to be published may confirm or refute this idea.]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37537 Pentadact Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:28:32 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37537 Yeah, that's what I mean by "setting fire to other things in order to save still other things to which the original fire might have eventually spread". http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37535 DoctorDisaster Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:14:04 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37535 You can actually use fire to contain forest fires, by doing a controlled burn around the perimeter, killing off the underbrush that the uncontrolled fire uses to spread. It's true! I read it on the internet. http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37533 Bret Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:05:27 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37533 But in the original two Alien films, flamethrowers were one of the few good ways to deal with the things. Shooting them into space was the best, sure, but fire made Xenomorphs run. And, to fulfill Pentadact's apparent demand for zombie debate: Fire solves the zombie problem, given enough time, and replaces it with fun, fire-based problems.
And, to fulfill Pentadact's apparent demand for zombie debate: Fire solves the zombie problem, given enough time, and replaces it with fun, fire-based problems.]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37532 Pentadact Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:41:50 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37532 I'm familiar with the phrase, of course, but I reject that setting fire to other things in order to save still other things to which the original fire might have eventually spread is a full or satisfactory solution to the problem that your original stuff is still on fire. Also aliens. I can't speak to the zombie debate Peter and Bret are doubtless about to launch into, but the flamethrower in Aliens Vs Predator primarily caused aliens to claw your face off with red-hot razor-sharp claws rather than just regular razor-sharp claws.
Also aliens. I can't speak to the zombie debate Peter and Bret are doubtless about to launch into, but the flamethrower in Aliens Vs Predator primarily caused aliens to claw your face off with red-hot razor-sharp claws rather than just regular razor-sharp claws.]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37531 Bret Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:17:49 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37531 Tell that to Freeman. http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37524 peterd102 Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:22:30 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37524 Nice to see different opinions in the PCG team. Btw fire is bad to use on Zombies, its a very risky weapon. A Zombie is bad, a zombie on fire is worse! http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37522 Ludo Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:13 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37522 Yeah John Walker was watching us play and he flagged that up on the RPS podcast. Dante followed a signpost to the Post Office, but when he got there all hell broke loose for no apparent reason, which to be honest was hilarious, but I can imagine being a problem with extended periods of play. I was totally infected by Tim's enthusiasm for it at the Showdown, and it is really beautiful, and with a stellar 90+% review behind it I'm willing to splash some cash.
I was totally infected by Tim's enthusiasm for it at the Showdown, and it is really beautiful, and with a stellar 90+% review behind it I'm willing to splash some cash.]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37519 Dante Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:48:08 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37519 I played Far Cry at the showdown too, and I have to say my experience mostly mirrored Tom's, everywhere I went people unloaded out of jeeps and tried to kill me. Tim reckons it's got a great, deep story, but I'm worried I'll have to fight my way to every single installment of it.
Tim reckons it's got a great, deep story, but I'm worried I'll have to fight my way to every single installment of it.]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37513 Bobsy Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:03:11 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37513 Interesting take. So: lack of variation is its big flaw? Sounds about right though I'll be interested to see for m'self if I ever buy my new compy. Funnily enough while I have a 101 one nasty things to say about Oblivion, variety is one of the things it manages to do well. And the last time I played a mostly-outdoorsy shooter (which may have been all the way back to Delta Force or Outcast, showing my age) I longed, <i>longed</i> to go indoors for a spell.
Funnily enough while I have a 101 one nasty things to say about Oblivion, variety is one of the things it manages to do well.

And the last time I played a mostly-outdoorsy shooter (which may have been all the way back to Delta Force or Outcast, showing my age) I longed, longed to go indoors for a spell.]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37512 ImperialCreed Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:43:54 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37512 @DDude Tom's probably given up requesting anything else in the hopes of getting L4D. Would you have anything you'd like to call out in Tim E's review then Tom? He was fairly ecstatic about it.
Tom's probably given up requesting anything else in the hopes of getting L4D.

Would you have anything you'd like to call out in Tim E's review then Tom? He was fairly ecstatic about it.]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37511 Iain "DDude" Dawson Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:19:46 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37511 That was an unexpected opinion. Don't tell Tim I said this, but when I saw it was he who was reviewing Far Cry and not you, I was sad. After your Bioshock review, your Oblivion review, I am hoping for another of the like this Christmas.
Don't tell Tim I said this, but when I saw it was he who was reviewing Far Cry and not you, I was sad. After your Bioshock review, your Oblivion review, I am hoping for another of the like this Christmas.]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37510 Grill Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:00:08 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37510 Yay for independence of thought! That's why you're the best print games writer in Britain! (Couldn't care less what your actual verdict was, but you've provided a well-argued case for it rather than the usual semi-emotional blurb of many sites, so that'll do me.)
(Couldn't care less what your actual verdict was, but you've provided a well-argued case for it rather than the usual semi-emotional blurb of many sites, so that'll do me.)]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37506 Crane Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:25:36 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37506 Hmmmm. How disheartening. Still, there's Fallout 3, Mirror's Edge, Left 4 Dead, Dead Space... Plenty of other potentially great games due soon. Still, there's Fallout 3, Mirror's Edge, Left 4 Dead, Dead Space... Plenty of other potentially great games due soon.]]> http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37505 Lack_26 Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:23:16 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37505 You can indeed solve Fire with Fire, that's what they do to fight forest fire. See there is nothing that fire can't solve. http://www.pentadact.com/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000/#comment-37499 Belcher Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:41:16 +0000 http://www.pentadact.com/index.php/2008-10-22-far-cry-2-released-forest-fires-up-8000#comment-37499 @Jason L: Darn you; took the words right out of my mouth, you did!